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Contributed by The Gray Dog on January 19, 2009 at 05:19 PM in Best of Old War Dogs, Bill Faith, Bill's Bites, Coming home, Current Affairs, Russ Vaughn | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Victory? What Victory?
The Jewish World Review has picked up the latest issue of Professor Daniel Pipes' newsletter--normally available to subscribers only. Find it here . His column deals with a burning question, namely--
The lead sentence hints strongly that Israel is on its own in confronting the near-term prospect of the Iranian Holocaust Bomb.
If this unnamed administration source is anywhere near the Sec Def or Condi level, it would seem that the primary emphasis has shifted from victory in the Middle East to withdrawal. Has the message to Iran evolved from "Make nice, not nukes" to "Pretty please, just let us go quietly?" Wiser heads than mine are needed to decrypt that sibylline utterance. Even so, it is safe to conclude that the White House appetite for pre-emption has subsided to somewhere below the level of wishful thinking. The main body of the Pipes offering concentrates on summarizing and analyzing a think-piece by a pair of MIT scholars who examine Israel's capabilities in depth. Can the Israelis actually do it? The short answer is "Yes," provided the government can steel themselves to face the kind of outcry that followed their attack on the Osirak reactor. Their argument is well worth reading. At the end, Dr. Pipes speculates on feasibility, and sees a fly in the ointment, a daunting question that planners of such an operation must face and somehow resolve. In the author's words, without serious comment here--
Is he kidding, or what? Your call. |
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Contributed by 72nd TCS on June 13, 2007 at 07:59 PM in Coming home, Current Affairs, G W Bush, Iran, Iraq, John "72nd TCS" Werntz | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by The Gray Dog on February 15, 2007 at 07:44 PM in Caring about our troops, Coming home, Current Affairs, Gathering of Eagles, Patriotism, The Gray Dog, Viet Nam | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by The Gray Dog on February 11, 2007 at 02:58 PM in Caring about our troops, Coming home, Current Affairs, Dem Dumbness, Gathering of Eagles, Music, Patriot Guard Riders, Patriotism, Peacenik Stupidity, Politics, The American Warrior, The Gray Dog, US Air Force, US Army, US Coast Guard, US Marine Corps, US Navy, Video, Viet Nam | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on December 27, 2006 at 05:47 PM in Coming home, Iraq, The American Warrior, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Spitting on Soldiers?
H/T to 'Old Fart' in our OWD forum I don't recollect if one of these incidents has ever been raised to this level before. And normally links, as cited by OF, in many colors and lots of bold face are off-putting. In this case a short Google excursion supports the info. The Jawa Report has noted the case. As one who was spit at, not on, I feel it may be time to do something about this, 'Old Fart' offers some ideas. |
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on December 13, 2006 at 05:59 PM in Coming home, Current Affairs, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by The Gray Dog on November 28, 2006 at 09:45 PM in Afghanistan, Caring about our troops, Christmas, Coming home, Iraq, Music, Patriotism, Thank you, The Gray Dog | Permalink | Comments (4) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by Bushranger on November 28, 2006 at 08:20 AM in Anthony Pahl, Coming home, Poetry | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by The Gray Dog on November 10, 2006 at 10:43 PM in Caring about our troops, Coming home, Current Affairs, The Gray Dog | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Oh yeah!
A friend of mine dug up some quotes that we all can be reminded of from time to time:
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on September 3, 2006 at 05:56 PM in Coming home, The American Warrior, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Dreams 'n stuff
This isn't a generic OWD post. A young friend is having trouble dealing with coming home from Iraq this past January.
Anyone here that hasn't felt similar? The older I get the more the memory of dreams merge with real memories. What can one say other than she's not alone? One of the things about Viet Nam and past conflicts is the way most vets have been able to compartmentalize and move on, others are still struggling. So I can't tell her it'll certainly get better. I met WWII vets who still have nightmares, even helped a few with PTSD claims. It comes down to this, I think, most (a huge majority) do get over it and move on. The overall experience most certainly will continue to shape our lives, but it's unlikely to be the prime mover for most. Any thoughts? [update] I wrestled with it, saved it as draft and fiddled some more. I just couldn't hit the nail on the head. Finally I gave up and posted it as is, with the question at the end. *** Bill Faith adds: Zero, please forgive me for hitching a ride on your post instead of doing something separate; I promise not to do this sort of thing often. You hit me where I live and maybe I'm not thinking real clear right now. I'm also fixin' to violate a copyright law. What're they gonna do, draft me and send me to Nam? Maybe since all I have is a poor quality 3rd-generation monaural copy of something I originally bought on vinyl they won't hang me too high. F**k 'em if they can't take a joke. You know how sometimes a song gets stuck in your head and you just can't quit replaying it in your mind? For me that song is "Still in Saigon." I doubt I'm alone, but some days it sure as hell feels like it. Give your friend a hug for me. |
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on August 26, 2006 at 02:46 PM in Best of Old War Dogs, Bill Faith, Caring about our troops, Coming home, The American Warrior, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (5) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by The Gray Dog on August 6, 2006 at 01:30 PM in Best of Old War Dogs, Coming home, The American Warrior, The Gray Dog | Permalink | Comments (3) | TrackBack |
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Sound Track mini-project
We Old Dogs have each have a sound track we associate with our lives. For us 'Nam vets it's as varied as our experiences. And it's still echoing. I am listening to Big and Rich - 8th of November. This tune kick started a few synapses. It has nothing to do my experiences, but rings a bell. Shucks, everything from Barry Sadler's "The Ballad Of The Green Berets" to the Ditzy Chix's Traveling Soldier get me going in odd ways. My pal Mike Morningstar (1st Cav) wrote this tune many years ago. As I age the soundtrack keeps changing, but the Bellamy Brothers captured a moment with Old Hippie, and Steve Earle's Copperhead Road was another snapshot. Just curious? Does YOUR life have a soundtrack? Should add, not restricted to 'Nam vets. |
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on July 22, 2006 at 06:31 PM in Coming home, Thank you, The American Warrior, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by Steve Gardner on July 7, 2006 at 09:57 AM in Coming home, Steve Gardner | Permalink | Comments (4) | TrackBack |
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Coming home :: A Series (Updated and bumped)
I may or may not do my own "Coming home" post later but for now I just want to point out there are some excellent ones on the site and that they'll make more sense if you read them in the order they were posted, not top to bottom order.
I'll update and bump this post as appropriate. Fellow vets, old and young: Consider this an open post. If you have a blog with a post in the Coming Home vein on it, please leave a trackback here or email me and I'll add a link to your post from this one. If you don't have an appropriate post up yet but write one later, same rules. If you don't blog, or even if you do, feel free to leave your story as a comment on this post and I'll turn it into a separate post as soon as I get to it. None of those ideas good for you? -- Email me your story and I'll turn it into a blog post for you and give you credit for writing it. Whether it's been 60 years or last week, welcome home fellow vets. *** I've added my meager contribution to the series here. |
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Contributed by Bill Faith on July 4, 2006 at 12:05 PM in Bill Faith, Coming home | Permalink | Comments (0) | TrackBack |
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"Will you welcome us home now?"
George thinks is would be a good idea for several of us to post our "Coming home" stories. Even if doing so wouldn't involve dredging up memories I'd rather leave buried I know I can't begin to compete with George as a writer anyway, so I'm going to settle for recycling something I wrote a while back; my feelings about matters haven't really changed since then; I suppose my hatred of Mad Jack Murtha is a little more active than my hatred of Jean Fraud Kerry at the moment, but after we redeploy Mad Jack this fall we'll still be keeping an eye on John Fraud lest he get any more big ideas. This was originally posted here in October of '04.
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Contributed by Bill Faith on July 4, 2006 at 12:02 PM in Bill Faith, Coming home | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by George Mellinger on July 4, 2006 at 10:20 AM in Coming home, George Mellinger | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack |
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Coming home
Inspired by Rurik. Coming home involved several aspects; physically getting back, NOT being in the Navy after almost 6 years, and dealing with having the word Vietnam attached to my name. Flew from Guam to Travis AFB with a stop-over at Yakota in Japan. I remember little about the trip so it must have been uneventful. I had opted to out-process at Great Lakes so my route was: Travis to Treasure Island - Treasure Island to SFX - SFX to O'hare - O'hare to Great Lakes. One of the tricks of memory is that from 35 plus years on, the trip itself seems to occupy little more space than that. There is a single event that stands out though; while at SFX I was one of several in uniform who were spit at, cursed at, and called 'baby killer'. The crap wasn't aimed at me, but everyone in uniform. It had been going on before I passed though and, I suspect went on well after I was in the air. I had checked around and found out that getting discharged at Treasure Island may have taken weeks. Then I would fly back to West Virgina via O'hare as a civilian.I figured that if I was discharged at Great Lakes it would be quicker and I'd wind up in the same place anyway. Here too, a single event stands out. After running in circles and, jumping through a hoop or two, I was at the very last check out desk. The Yeoman stated that I had to get a haircut before I could turn in my ID and get my disharge packet. I stood there puzzled, I was about to take off my uniform and put on civies, after all. The reasoning was beyond me, but I did the deed and made my exit. It was 1969. In 1991 There was a parade where I was living on The Big Island of Hawaii for the Veterans of Desert Storm. The organizers invited Vietnam Vets to march along. I did, and I was finally home. |
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Contributed by Zero Ponsdorf on July 4, 2006 at 03:34 AM in Coming home, George Mellinger, US Navy, Zero Ponsdorf | Permalink | Comments (2) | TrackBack |
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Contributed by George Mellinger on July 3, 2006 at 11:26 PM in Coming home, George Mellinger | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack |
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Welcome home Dread Cow!
For those of you who don't know him, Dread Cow is, or rather has been, a rifleman serving in Iraq, and he maintained a blog, Fun with Hand Grenades. Now he has returned home. And he has posted two remarkable columns to his site on his reactions to re-entering the world. Read them here at Milk and Honey and then Reflection, part one I find it strange that the army prepares us for going over, but tells us noting about how to come home. and most vets tend to tell war stories and neglect the equally important coming home stories. At least since Homer wrote The Odyssey based on returning from the Trojan War. This Old War Dog intends to spend much of today preparing as a tribute, my own experiences. Meantime, go read Dread Cow. And if any of you other hounds feels moved to howl your own coming home stories, it will be good. -Rurik |
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Contributed by George Mellinger on July 3, 2006 at 10:37 AM in Coming home, George Mellinger | Permalink | Comments (1) | TrackBack |


