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Wednesday, 16 August 2006
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Karl Bossi: What Would Our Forefathers Do?
Contributed by Bill Faith
Karl's at Lake Tahoe doing his blogging and emailing from a coffee shop with a WiFi hotspot, which limits our troubleshooting on any technical problems he runs into. For some reason, possibly just a temporary hiccup (I'm hoping), TypePad wouldn't let him post this himself.
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Contributed by Bill Faith on August 16, 2006 at 12:01 PM in , , , , , | Comments Posted by: Good stuff. Wish I could write like that. Welcome aboard. Posted by: | Aug 13, 2006 7:53:21 PM Posted by: Welcome aboard Karl. A great summation and analogy of just how easily the balance could be tipped in the wrong direction. You are so right that a little luck often defeats skill. In support of your comments, I would recommend that everyone read 1776 by David McCullough. It wonderfully spells out our history of that time, and goes well beyond the simplistic version taught in schools today. Posted by: | Aug 14, 2006 6:42:50 AM Posted by: Welcome Moose. A fine first post. I particularly liked the line about the army of rabbits. Posted by: | Aug 14, 2006 2:56:54 PM Posted by: Off to a great start, Karl. You hit the ground running. I just wonder, who is going to be our Lion in Winter, come 2008? I'm drawing a blank on that one. Posted by: | Aug 15, 2006 5:33:06 AM Posted by: 1st Cav Welcome aboard Karl. A nice piece there. As Rurick has reminded us so often, history often times repeats itself if not studied and taken into account. While reading your article, I couldn't help but remember my experiences in Vietnam. For years having been reluctant to compare any events to Vietnam, I find that there are some analogies and historical references well worth remembering. You speak of Thomas Paine's Quaker influence and 'Common Sense.' That reminds me of another Quaker, Richard Millhouse Nixon. As history goes, the Democrats; Kennedy, LBJ, and McNamara, are the ones who pretty much set the pace of the Vietnam War. Nixon inherited it from them. For a Quaker, he wasn't afraid to commit to what needed to be done. First was his large push into Cambodia in 1970 to deny the enemy sanctuary. That worked a bit and things seemed to stabilize in Vietnam for quite a long time. All the previous years of Pacification, Hearts and Minds, CORDS, etc. had pretty much eliminated the Viet Cong. That's why in 1972, the NVA had to launch an all out conventional war with ALL their uniformed NVA Divisions. After much hard fighting and massive air support their drive failed. North Vietnam was beaten and could hardly support what was left of their army. Yet the antiwar groups at the critical time was deliberately working with our enemy to force the U.S. into an unnecessary underdog position at the peace table. Nixon wouldn't stand for it and continued bombing the hell out of North Vietnam and all infiltration routes. Some of the fierciest bombing since WW II. Immediately after the 1972 Easter Offensive and the 1972 'Christmas Bombing,'the Watergate incident came about. It's not only my belief, but many studied historians view, had Nixon been allowed to follow through without all the loud mouth defeatist pressures, the outcome would have been very different. One more comparison. The book 'A Bright Shinning Lie, John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam,' is a basic history of of the Vietnam war written by Neil Sheehan who I personally consider to be pretty much a traitor. Certainly he was traitorious to Vann, or he would have never included so much of his personal skeletons. That point can be argued by Sheehan til the cows come home, but my take is that it wasn't necessary. To make the comparison as does the theme of the book, Vann had started off with the winning hearts and minds stratagey in the early 60's, but changed tactics 180 deg when it needed doing to win in 1972. Vann died on June 9, 1972 believing we had won. He deserves a higher held place in history. The lesson to be remembered is when tactics need changing to win, then we need to do it and do it with strong commitment, force and impact. Now's the time to strike the heart of the problem, to severely cripple Iran and Syria, if not totally annihilate them. Heck, I can still shoot fairly straight. Like the Marines at the WTC, I know a lot of us old vets would fall back in if necessary. As for the mostly pacifist Quakers, even their true leaders know how to make peace when it's required.
Posted by: 1st Cav | Aug 16, 2006 2:05:19 AM Posted by: 1st Cav Almost immediately after commenting above I received this Townhall article. There are many points in this article that parallel what I was trying to convey. IMO, we need to do more than what's recommended by Rich Lowrey. http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/RichLowry/2006/08/15/bushs_vietnam?page=full&comments=true Bush's Vietnam?
Posted by: 1st Cav | Aug 16, 2006 3:23:03 AM Posted by: JB Good to have you on the team Karl. Your book should be a good read also and my copy is on the way. I look forward to your contributions here at OWD and you'll fit in just fine. The thing I really appreciate about this pack is the history lessons and knowledge that is imparted on a daily basis by those of you that have the ability to write with flair conviction. I've had more history lessons from the good folks here than I ever got thru the public school system. Posted by: JB | Aug 22, 2006 7:25:38 PM |